Truher-Lietzau Danzig Koscierzyna and the Schaefferius-Schafferius connection.

2009m1201 Notes from John Truher <john@truher.net>  

Elsie Brink's passing recently reminds me of a puzzle that I have come back to from time to time.  The Truher-Lietzau place of origin, and the Schafferius families in Australia all seemed to be derived from a common locus.  

If you include the Truher-Lietzau Schaeffarius Schafferius Barent Koscierzyna connection, one may be led to The Colston_Wenck Family web page which cites Gottfried Schafferius, b. 1826, d. 1862.   

I believe these two were siblings in Berent, Danzig, West Prussia, otherwise in Polish knows as Koscierzyna, a viliage still active. 

Today I received from Ron Haack

Dear Cousins,

Elsie Lorraine Brink, nee Gill, died on November 25th, 2009 in National City, San Diego County, California.  Attached is a letter from John Kindseth, an updated ancestor chart for Elsie, and a summary report.

I had many fun times out at her Chula Vista home visiting with various Gill, Pinske, Lietzau and Truher relatives and then enjoying Elsie's good cooking!

We all will miss her. Ronald H. Haack  2009-12-01

The Truher family in Western United states has an extraordinarily uncommon name, favoring our  chance of tracing European heritage, an item long of my curiosity.

Text follow from some earlier files, toward this interest.  While we have no evidence that Truher's were Jewish-related. I was led to Barent (German equivalent) of the Polish town Koscierzyna by a conversation I had with a niece of Elsie Brink (who has avoided further clarifications without explanation. This was Anita Kay Enander (b. 1952).  But I made a record of the phonetic content of that conversation.

So here a smattering of text from perhaps in year 2003 in my file named "Berent-Koscierzyna.rtf"  which came out of the Lietzau family memory - some from Pat Schonberg, and some from her niece, Anita Enander, as I recorded in 2003.

Within Pat's Schonberg's typed group sheets, that location becomes:

1. ALTEBEKOVITZ, KRISEN, BERNDT, GER

2. ALTENBEKOVITZ, K. POLAND-RUSSIA

3. from her disk data, ALTENBEKOVITZ, KRIESBERNDT, PRUSSIA

So we sort of have a birth location for the Pinske line. 

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..some phonetic spellings of villages that Anita Enander spoke to Jack Truher about a couple of years ago (2001).  Do they look familiar and are they spelled correctly?  What does each mean to us in the Lietzau search?  Do you have some stuff written down, either hand written or typed, that would help us?

1. PLAESCHEN

2. BUKOVITZ, BUKOWWITZIEC

3. PORORESKIE

4. KOSCIERZYNA (BERENT)   Koscierzyna-WestPreussen

http://thorin.adnc.com/~lynnd/gfaqo.ht

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 For a few years, I have kept on eye on the the Schafferius Family web site in Western Australia.  A Florentine Schaefferius (note the "e") was born in 1824 and died in 1898.  That is the connection to the Truher Family in California.  

http://colston-wenck.com/search.php?mylastname=schafferius&myfirstname=&mybool=AND&search=Search

The Colston_Wenck Family web page cites Gottfried Schafferius, b. 1826, d. 1862.   I believe these two maybe have been siblings or contemporary cousins in Berent, Danzig, West Prussia.  There are so many similarities in the locations (Barent and Pinchin) that  I have otherwise found in Danzig by other means.

and in the Truher line we have in the same Generation in Barent, a Florentine Schefferius.  Siblings?  Cousins?

see  http://www.mickey-cookie.whsites.com/family_tree/flor_truher-lietzau_descend-full.htm

If we are to find the Truher family location in Europe, I suspect the first place to start is Barent, Danzig, West Prussia (now Gdansk, Poland)

-- John Truher

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other of my former connections are of Kosciernzyna, e.g.

KOSCIERZYNA:     US Commission No. POCE000010    Map

 Alternate German name: Berent. Koscierzyna is located in Gdansk region at 54°07'' 17°58', 56 km from Gdansk. The address of the cemetery is ul. 22 Lipabout. Present population is 5,000-25,000 with fewer than 10 Jews.

◦ Town: Prezydent Miasta (President of the Town), Urzad Miasta (Town Office), 83-400 Koscierzyna ul. 3 Maja 9, tel. 10-03 Centrala.

◦ Regional: Wojewodzki (Province) Konserwator Zabytkow, 80-881 Gdansk ul. Kotwicz nikow 20, tel. 31-62-67, 31-62-68 Centrala.

◦ Interested: Regionalny Carodek Studiow i Ochrony Srodowiska Kulturowego, 80-822 Gdansk ul. Sw.Trojcy 5, tel. 31-77-12, 31-75-22 Centrala.

The earliest known Jewish community is 1732. 1921 Jewish population (census) was 18, in 1931-Lacznie z Skarszewami 33. [sic] Effecting the Jewish community was 1) 1309-permanent settlement; 2) 1732 community in the village of Szydlice; 3) 1772-migration to towns; 4) 1865-1914 rabbinate; 5) 1920-emigration; and 6) 1939-extermination. The Orthodox Jewish cemetery was established around 1786 with last known Jewish burial around 1934. In the plan of town development, the cemetery is landmarked. The isolated suburban flat land has no sign or marker. The cemetery is reach turning directly off a public road and crossing buildings of the factory "Sopotplast." Access is open to all with no wall or fence or fate. Before World War II, the cemetery was 1.0 ha. Now, it is.31 ha. No gravestones are visible. The municipality owns property used for industrial or commercial use. Properties adjacent are commercial or industrial. The boundaries, compared to 1939, are smaller because of the commercial-idustrial development. The cemetery is visited rarely. It was vandalized during World War II; no maintenance or structures. Weather erosion and pollution are moderate threats, incompatible development, both existing and proposed are slight threats.

Dr. Hanna Domanska, 81-742 Sopot ul.Wladyslawa IV 34/3, tel. 51-04-22 completed survey on July 21, 1991. Documentation: "karta cmentarza H. Domanska, Kamienne drzewo placzu. Gminy zydowskie wojewodztwa gdanskiego, ich dziefe i kultura Gdansk 1991." The site was not visited; and no interviews were conducted.

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Marriage 1 Karoline Wilhelmina HOPP b: 20 Feb 1831 in Czarnoczin, Danzig, West Prussia (Czarnocin, Starogard Gdanski County, Pomeranian Province, Poland)

• Married: 28 Nov 1852 in Stargart, Danzig, West Prussia (Starogard Gdanski, Poland)
• Change Date: 19 Mar 2007

Children

1. SCHAFFERIUS b: Aft 1852
2. SCHAFFERIUS b: Aft 1852
3. Nathalie Amalia SCHAFFERIUS b: 15 May 1856 in Pinschin, Danzig, West Prussia (Pinczyn, Poland)
4. Albert SCHAFFERIUS b: 05 Jul 1858 in Pinschin, Danzig, West Prussia (Pinczyn, Poland)
5. Amanda SCHAFFERIUS b: 20 Jun 1863 in West Prussia
6. Julius Wilhelm SCHAFFERIUS b: 15 Oct 1865 in Pinschin, Danzig, West Prussia (Pinczyn, Poland)

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Marriage 1 Emilie Albertine BALKE b: 1866 in Schneer, Lauenburg, Germany

• Married: 21 Dec 1883 in Queensland, Australia
• Change Date: 14 Jan 2009

Children

1. Ida Minnie Martha SCHAFFERIUS b: 20 Sep 1884 in Ropeley, Queensland, Australia
2. Minna Emilie Auguste SCHAFFERIUS b: 11 Oct 1885 in Ropeley, Queensland, Australia
3. Leopold Paul "Max" SCHAFFERIUS b: 10 Jan 1887 in Ropeley, Queensland, Australia
4. Paul Albert Carl SCHAFFERIUS b: 25 Feb 1889 in Ropeley, Queensland, Australia
5. Helena Maria Elsa "Lena" SCHAFFERIUS b: 31 May 1891 in Deep Gully (Ropeley), Queensland, Australia
6. Leopold Julius William "Leo" SCHAFFERIUS b: 23 Jun 1893 in Ropeley, Queensland, Australia
7. Reinhold Edward Adolph SCHAFFERIUS b: 05 Oct 1895 in Deep Gully (Ropeley), Queensland, Australia
8. Emelia Ottilie Elisabeth "Millie" SCHAFFERIUS b: 10 Aug 1903 in Deep Gully (Ropeley), Queensland, Australia